Frequently Asked Questions from Professionals in Engineering or Water Treatment

 

Questions about drinking water sources

Questions about non-potable water sources (cooling towers, whirlpools, fountains).

 

What is the upper limit of Legionella for water distribution systems?  

         In contrast to the situation for cooling towers, there is solid scientific data available for interpretation of culture results from hospital water distribution systems.  Risk assessment should not be based on the concentration of Legionella recovered from a given water outlet; quantitation (CFU/ml) does not correlate with incidence of disease (CDC, Infection Control and Hospital Epidemiology 1999, Kohler, Journal of Hospital Infection 1999, Pittsburgh Special Pathogens Laboratory [Best] Lancet 1983).  On the other hand, risk for Legionella infections increase as the extent of colonization with L. pneumophila increases (i.e., a high percentage of water outlets yield Legionella).  In two studies, Legionnaires’ disease did not occur unless the percentage of water outlets reached 30% or greater (Best Lancet 83, Stout, in press). 

       Complete elimination of Legionella from a hospital water system is not necessary to eliminate cases of Legionnaires’ disease in the hospital (Pittsburgh Special Pathogens Lab [Stout], Infection Control and Hospital Epidemiology, 1998). 

 

Can Legionella survive in chlorinated water? 

        Legionella has been isolated from chlorine treated water.  The levels of Legionella that elude the water treatment process are essentially undetectable.  When this water travels through the system and loses much of the chlorine residual, either from retention time or warm temperatures in water distribution systems, Legionella can then be cultured.  The colonization rate for large buildings is 20-70%, depending on the geographic region. Residential water systems can also harbor Legionella.

 

It is very interesting to learn from The Lancet Infectious Disease, June 2003 article that virtually all outbreaks have been linked to potable water, and that showering is not a mode of transmission (except perhaps for high risk patients?). 

          Showering is allowed even for high-risk patients. Highly-immunosuppressed patients and COPD (emphysema) patients should drink bottled water or boiled water that has been cooled, but this is optional. If the percent of distal water sites is < 30%, we do not prohibit showering or drinking water for most patients even if Legionella is present in the water.  See our reply to a question about showering in the FAQ from physicians.

We have emergency shower/eyewash combination units in our plant. The units are not used that much. I have heard that the Legionella thrive in cooler water. Is this true and what measures can we take to combat the problem?  The emergency shower/eyewash units are fed from the general potable water supply but are deadlegs as far as general system flow patterns.

        It is possible that Legionella might be in these units, but the risk is negligible, and no infections have even been reported to occur from use of these units.  No guidelines have ever been issued for such units and are probably unnecessary. 

 

 Emergency showers on water and waste water sites - used for possible chemical splashes etc. Some of these showers have a heated tank. Should these fall under the testing regime for Legionella?

        The major mode of transmission of Legionella is aspiration (so drinking the water is necessary), although intense aerosolization might transmit the organism. In the emergency showers that you describe, the risk would be so low as to not warrant any preventive measure.

 

Should a water distribution system harboring Legionella anisa be disinfected?

       The majority (>90%) of cases of Legionnaires' disease reported in the U.S. are caused by Legionella pneumophilaL. anisa is frequently isolated from environmental specimens but almost never causes disease.  L. anisa is generally nonpathogenic and disinfection is not necessarily indicated for this particular species (Yu VL, J Infect Chemother 2004).

 

I´m a medical student at Karolinska Institute in Sweden currently involved in a project about prevention of legionnaires disease, and I have found your website to be a valuable resource.  I´m writing about the use of free radicals in the elimination of legionella in water systems.  Is this something you are planning on evaluating?  The technique is very interesting and has been proven very efficient on the elimination of Legionella species - among others - in water systems.

        We are assuming you are speaking of the free radicals of oxygen obtained by disinfecting with ozone or hydrogen peroxide.  We have not investigated hydrogen peroxide in our laboratory. The Yamagiwa et al article presents a view of hydrogen peroxide (Yamagiwa K, et al. (2001) Disinfection Kinetics of Legionlla pneumophila by Hydrogen Peroxide.  Journal of Chemical Engineering of Japan. 34(8),1074-1077).  Hydrogen peroxide is slightly more stable than ozone, but maintenance of a sufficient residual in large drinking water systems may still be difficult.  Additionally, we are not sure in the U.S. if hydrogen peroxide could be legally used as a drinking water disinfectant.  If hydrogen peroxide is effective it may be most useful in applications such as spas and whirlpools.  There have been numerous other studies of ozone and we have a listing on www.legionella.org under Research - Legionella Control which compares the recommended concentration with other oxidizing biocides.  Ozone was effective in our model plumbing system (Muraca Appl Environ Microbiol 1987 – see Publications).  One note on ozone, it is very reactive and as such does not produce a residual to carry disinfection effects into a distribution system.  This can be a problem for piping systems which have an established biofilm harboring Legionella far from the point of ozone application.

 

I work for a building management company which involves controlling domestic hot water tanks, I would like to know what the official minimum storage temperatures are and the length of time they have to be at that temperature. I am under the impression that it is a minimum temperature of 60oc for at least 1 hour in any 24 hours (therefore the temperature can be dropped for the remaining 23 hours) can you tell me if this is correct. 

    The temperature should remain stable at about 140oF at the tank.  It would not be wise to only hold this temperature for only one hour and then reduce it.

       Please obtain a copy of the American Society of Heating, Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Engineers (ASHRAE) guide to "Minimizing the Risk of Legionella in Building Water Systems".  This document has a section regarding hot water storage temperature. You can also download a copy from the Baltimore Aircoil web site (www.baltimoreaircoil.com).

    The "official" minimum storage temperatures and durations may vary from country to country and even state to state depending on local guidelines.  As a general source you may want to request guidelines from the following organizations:

       In the US:  http://www.ashrae.org

       In the UK:  http://www.bsria.co.uk/

         If you are interested in Legionella disinfection specific information try the following: http://www.legionella.org/biocides_research1.htm, the table on our website recommends that for potable water systems, heating and flushing can disinfect Legionella.

       Your suggestion of maintaining a water temp greater than 60oC in the tank for 1 hour may kill Legionella in the tank; however, regrowth of Legionella is likely to occur in the hot water distribution system where temperatures could drop to less than 50oC depending on use.  Ideally for Legionella disinfection you would want to maintain a high temperature throughout the distribution system (hence flushing).

    Whatever heating regime you try, monitoring of distal sites and the how water tank is necessary to document the effectiveness of disinfection specific to your system and temperature set points.

 

We have had a copper-silver ionization system on our hot water system for more than a year now.  No cases of hospital-acquired Legionnaires’ disease have occurred since installation, but the copper and silver ion levels are sometimes less than the recommended range by the manufacturer (copper 0.2-0.8 ppm; silver at 0.02-0.08 ppm (20-80 ppb).  Is this cause for alarm or justification to perform additional disinfection like a superheat and flush?

       Our experience indicates that ion levels slightly below the manufacturer’s recommended levels are still effective in systems that have been operational for awhile.  For example, we have had copper levels in the range of 0.1-0.2 ppm and silver at 0.01-0.02 ppm (10-20 ppb).  Our environmental cultures remain well below our threshold of 30% positivity (0-10% most of the time).  I would request either cleaning of the electrodes or adjustments in amperage if the level of copper is at or below 0.1 ppm copper or 0.01 (10 ppb) silver.

       We would not recommend that a decision to perform a superheat and flush be based on ion levels.  This procedure is labor intensive and should be performed in response to either detection of a hospital-acquired case of Legionnaires’ disease or an increase in colonization of the system to 30% or above. 

  

 

Questions about non-potable water sources

What is the acceptable upper limit of Legionella in cooling towers?

         We are skeptical that cooling towers are a major source for disseminating Legionella and we predict that many community outbreaks linked to cooling towers will ultimately be shown to be from drinking water.  This is based on the fact that all hospital outbreaks originally linked to cooling towers years ago are now known to have emanated from the hospital drinking water.  For more details, download the following articles from our Publication section (Muder, Arch Int Med 86, Yu Am J Med 93, Sabria Lancet Infect Dis 2002).

         Nevertheless, because of concern about litigation involving Legionnaires’ disease, we receive numerous inquiries about cooling tower maintenance.  Moreover, many water treatment specialists use the service of our Special Pathogens Laboratory for cultures of Legionella in cooling towers. 

         Neither the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and Prevention nor the Environmental Protection Agency specify a minimum contaminant level for Legionella for cooling towers.  Outbreak investigations have documented both low (<100 Colony Forming Units /mL) and high (>1000 CFU/mL) levels of Legionella in water samples from cooling towers. There are no scientifically based guidelines for establishing risk criteria for Legionella recovery from cooling towers.  Although guidelines have been suggested from a few groups, the data used to establish the relationship of the action levels to disease risk is very limited.  Therefore these guidelines are overly strict (recommending remediation at lower levels) and should be interpreted with caution.

         Links to various websites with guidance documents that suggest levels and interpretation are available on our website by clicking onto “Research” and then “Other Information”. The ASHRAE guidelines 12-2000 is available as a free download from the Baltimore Air Coil website www.baltimoreaircoil.com.

 

Are chlorine and other oxidizing biocides the only recommended treatment for cooling towers?

Click onto “Research” on the Home Page to see a table of biocides that we and others have found to be effective.  This table was published as part of the American Society of Hospital Engineers technical document on Legionella. 

       There are effective non-oxidizing biocides.  The ASHRAE guideline (available at www.baltimoreaircoil.com) does not recommend a specific biocide, but does recommend that you consult with a water treatment specialist. 

 

If Legionella is found in decorative fountains, is remediation needed?

       We would discourage the installation of decorative fountains in hospitals.

       For buildings that do not have persons at risk for pneumonia, the water fountains can be treated with disinfectants such as chlorine or bromide. Ultraviolet light may also be effective.  Matt Freije (www.hcinfo.com) recommends draining and cleaning decorative fountains at least twice a year – or more often if slime or dirt is visible. Surfaces can be scrubbed with a disinfecting solution (1 part chlorine to 20 parts water may be appropriate).  Consult a water treatment service for advice.  

 

 

I am a journalist working for Norwegian TV.  In the city of Stavanger in Norway, there has recently been several cases of legionella, and investigations conclude that cooling towers most probably are the sources of this outbreak. On your webpage you write that "Cooling towers have long been thought to be a major source for Legionella, but new data suggest that this is an overemphasized mode of transmission". Do you have any numbers or data on how many times i.e. the last outbreaks have been caused by cooling towers?

       Public health authorities downplay the significance of Legionella infections because most originate from drinking water. It is easier to target a cooling tower and harder to discuss with the general public the implications of Legionella in the drinking water.  Note that the investigators said "probably".  All you have to do is to ask the investigators "Did you culture the homes of the patients and their workplaces for legionella". If they refuse to answer, you will have learned something.

       See our recent article Sabria Lancet Infectious Diseases, 2002 on our Home Page.

 

There are a lot of people who would like to believe that cooling towers are not sources for Legionella infection. I'm sure ASHRAE would love to prove that and let the HVAC design engineers off the hook. On the other hand if it's in the drinking water, why did others in the Wadsworth VA Hospital area, a heavily populated area not come down with Legionnaires’ disease? The Melbourne aquarium was traced to the cooling towers according too Australian public health authorities.   If it's in the drinking water, why have not the people who control the city water, which has a low level of bacteria, said something? Could we be looking at a national problem?

          Our views are accepted in the scientific community.  ASHRAE also is aware of the data. However, the cooling tower link is so emphasized that it is difficult for lay organizations and public health authorities to acknowledge that the scientific view has shifted.

          The Wadsworth VA Legionnaires’ disease outbreak was initially linked to cooling towers by the CDC, but Legionella was subsequently found to be in the drinking water due to the potable water (Shands KN, JAMA 1985).  Other Los Angles hospitals specifically UCLA and Cedars-Sinai hospitals also experienced unreported outbreaks linked to potable water. Cedars-Sinai and Wadsworth have subsequently installed copper-silver ionization systems onto their water supply.

          The fact that it is in the drinking water of homes and apartment buildings has been reported in the scientific literature in many countries. Our studies were the first and the best-known reports and can be downloaded from Publications in our website (see Coming of the 3rd Plague on the Home Page). CDC also subsequently linked drinking water to sporadic cases of Legionnaires’ disease (Straus W, Arch Int Med 1996).

          Public health agencies are reluctant to discuss this issue openly because of fear of panicking the population.  Reports in Europe and Australia have focused on cooling towers because it is easier to blame an outbreak on a cooling tower than on the public drinking water supply.  None of the reports you read about in the newspapers are ever published in the peer-review scientific literature, because the evidence for cooling tower links is so poorly supported.

          You may want to read our perspective in Stout, N Engl J Med Jan 16, 1992 on our comments concerning cooling towers and our response to the letters that followed (Yu, N Engl J Med, June 18, 1992). The Stout article can be downloaded from the Publications Section on www.legionella.orgClick onto Mode of Transmission and download two articles by Muder Arch Int Med 1986 and Yu, Am J Med 93. Read the article on the Home Page by Yu.  Nosocomial Legionellosis, Current Opinion Infectious Diseases 2000.

          We predict that most published reports of cooling tower outbreaks will ultimately be shown to be erroneous.  Virtually all the articles on hospital outbreaks linked to cooling towers were published in the early 1980's. Interestingly after we published the first report showing the real culprit was drinking water in 1982 New England J Medicine and 1983 Lancet, subsequent outbreaks have been linked to drinking water.  The most publicized cooling tower outbreaks involved cooling towers at LA Wadsworth VA Medical Center, Rhode Island Hospital (Brown Univ), and Burlington Hospital of U Vermont; the actual source is now known to be drinking water in those hospitals.  In the early days the CDC never cultured the hospital water because they did not realize Legionella could be there.

       Pittsburgh hospitals have the highest usage rate in the world of the Binax urinary antigen and the only city in the world in which every hospital has Legionella cultures available for pneumonia patients.  Because of the intense interest in Legionella and the lab capabilities of Pittsburgh hospitals, the city of Pittsburgh has recorded more cases of Legionnaires’ disease than 38 US states.  In 1993, the

Allegheny County Guidelines (which can be downloaded from the home page of www.legionella.org) recommended culturing drinking water systems of hospitals, and disinfection, if necessary. By 2001,19 Pittsburgh hospitals had installed copper-silver systems. By 2001, cases of hospital acquired Legionnaires’ disease Legionella had all but disappeared from Pittsburgh.  In Pittsburgh, cooling towers are neither tested for Legionella nor disinfected.

       In 1992, we reported that Legionella could be contracted from the drinking water of homes and workplaces and warned all public health agencies that before cooling towers were blamed, the homes and the workplaces of the patients should be cultured to see if the real source was the drinking water.  CDC confirmed the accuracy of our report to their surprise (Strauss, Arch Int Med 1996), but they have not rescinded their cooling tower recommendations.  And, cooling tower outbreaks in hospitals have all but disappeared from the scientific literature. In a review of hospital outbreaks since 1985, virtually all epidemiologic investigations now implicate drinking water.  UK investigators were unable to link reported cases of community-acquired Legionnaires' disease to cooling towers in Nottingham, but found 39% of cases in Nottingham had Legionella in their home waters supply.  They concluded that home water supplies were the major sources in Nottingham (Lim WK, Epidemiol Infect 2003).

 

What is the best procedure for preventing Legionella becoming a problem in my hot tub. I currently use chlorine as a disinfectant but I am concerned that sometimes this runs out and I understand that the bacteria can build up in the air injector lines, also if there is chlorine in the water and Legionella builds up in the air lines is the Legionella killed off when the air is turned on when it passes through the chlorinated water

    Legionella must be in contact with the active biocide (chlorine, bromine, etc.) for a sufficient amount of time and at a concentration of the biocide that is active against Legionella.  So, control of Legionella would occur in the liquid phase.  Maintain the biocide concentration at the recommended level, monitor your biocide levels and keep the system clean.  This should keep your system under control.

       We also believe some of the outbreaks attributed to hot tubs were incorrect and the drinking water was the actual source. 

 

 

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